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INT-LAW September 2007, Week 4

Subject:

Re: German Civil code history

From:

Lucy Cox <[log in to unmask]>

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International Law Librarians List (Int-Law)

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Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:18:57 -0400

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Dear Wiltrud,

Thank you for all your work on tracking down the elusive German Civil Code 
history citation. As I was searching for it on-line and other sources, I 
felt I was on the track, but without being able to actually go to the shelf 
and checking, as you did, it would have been impossible to know what to ask 
for via ILL.

Lucy Cox
Rutgers University Law Library-Camden





At 08:45 PM 9/21/2007, you wrote:
>Dear Lucy,
>
>We here at Boalt have the multivolume Jakobs/Schubert set  entitled  DIE 
>BERATUNG DES BURGERLICHEN GESETZBUCHS. The spine of each volume indicates 
>which paragraphs are covered, so I checked the volume  for paras. 433-651, 
>page 404. We got lucky: I found a (printed) marginal note on that page 
>that reads "Prot I 1835 Kurlbaum".
>
>By the way, your professor was right assuming that the cited text deals 
>with gift law: the First Commission discussed those articles which 
>determine under which conditions the giver of a gift (or heir) can demand 
>the gift back. Pages 403 ff quote various submitted amendments or 
>corrections and report very briefly on subsequent discussions and 
>decisions of the First Commission.
>
>I'll fax the relevant pages to you before going home.
>
>Best regards,
>Wiltrud
>
>Timothy Kearley wrote:
>>Hi Lucy,
>>
>>I can't give you specifics about this cite, but I suggest calling the
>>University of Illinois.  When I recall that when I was foreign,
>>comparative & international law librarian there I bought quite a few
>>things concerning the drafting history of the BGB.  I think these
>>commission documents may have been in a set of reprints I bought.  Good
>>luck.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>Timothy Kearley
>>Director of the Law Library &
>>Centennial Distinguished Professor of Law
>>George W. Hopper Law Library
>>University of Wyoming
>>College of Law
>>[log in to unmask]
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Lucy Cox [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 
>>2007 10:30 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [Int-Law] German Civil code history
>>
>>Hello, Int-law colleagues,
>>
>>One of our professors needs information on an item for which he has only
>>
>>the following skimpy information:
>>"Protokolle I. 1835 in Kurlbaum  sections 530-533 at 404"
>>
>>He thinks it refers to the Protokolle (minutes)  of the discussion of 
>>the  First Commission of the BGB drafters, specifically about gift law.
>>
>>Looking in WorldCat under Protokolle der Kommission  I find quite a bit
>>(in German, of course), both of the First Commisson as well as the Second 
>>Commission. Some are multi-volume sets, and I guess the citation he has 
>>probably refers to the the first volume of a set. I find nothing by 
>>Kurlbaum that fits in WorldCat, but did find him on the Internet, and in
>>
>>connection with this title: "Die Vorlagen der Redaktoren fur die erste 
>>Kommission zur Ausarbeitung des Entwurfs eines Burgerlichen
>>Gesetzbuches.....
>>
>>I would very much appreciate any more information that anyone could shed
>>on this--library holdings seem to be more in European, than U.S. libraries,
>>
>>naturally.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>
>>Lucy Cox        Rutgers University Law Library-Camden
>>
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>
>--
>Wiltrud Harms
>Reference Specialist for United Nations and Human Rights Law
>University of California, Berkeley Law School Library
>Berkeley, CA 94720-7210
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