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Re: UK - April 2 1787 ; April 28 1787 Letters Patent

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Barbara Flowers <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:36:29 +1000

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plus ca change - I think that about sums it up, although I'm surprised the Instructions weren't printed in some official tome and kept at Westminster or somewhere ;  I've always felt the English were rather ashamed of their Australian connections so losing Governor Phillip probably seems like a good cover-up some shameful bit of family history.  Perhaps he wasn't quite the right class?  I know almost nothing about him and must hie me to the Wiki - regards Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: International Law Librarians List (Int-Law) on behalf of Davies, Gayle
Sent: Thu 20/09/2007 2:21 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [Int-Law] UK - April 2 1787 ; April 28 1787 Letters Patent
 
Not only have Governor Phillip's instructions been lost, but so have his
mortal remains - see Wikipedia entry: 

Loss of remains
In 2007, Geoffrey Robertson QC revealed that Phillip's remains are no
longer in in St Nicholas Church, Bathampton and have been lost:
"...Captain Arthur Phillip is not where the ledger stone says he is: it
may be that he is buried somewhere outside, it may simply be that he is
simply lost. But he is not where Australians have been led to believe
that he now lies."[1] Robertson also believes it was a "disgraceful
slur" on Phillip's legacy that he wasn't buried in one of England's
great cathedrals and was relegated to a small village church. Robertson
is campaigning for a rigorous search for the remains, which he believes
should be re-interred in Australia.

"The moral of this story is that we can't trust the English, the Church
of England, the British, to look after our national treasures. If we're
going to treasure them and remember them properly, we have to do it
ourselves."



-----Original Message-----
From: International Law Librarians List (Int-Law)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Barbara Flowers
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2007 1:15 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [Int-Law] UK - April 2 1787 ; April 28 1787 Letters Patent

thanks Gayle - I might try an ILL from them.  It's curious that the
founding docs site lacks this particular document,
http://www.foundingdocs.gov.au/item.asp?sdID=68, makes me think the
original can't be found (they do have the text of it, but I'm looking
for a gazettal, or something official from that time) - thanks for your
help, regards Barbara

________________________________

From: International Law Librarians List (Int-Law) on behalf of Davies,
Gayle
Sent: Wed 19/09/2007 5:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [Int-Law] UK - April 2 1787 ; April 28 1787 Letters Patent



Hi Barbara,

This is the results from the State Library of NSW Mitchell Library
web-site  (searched on "Letters Patent"): 

Regards,

Gayle Davies. 

Manager, Library Services

Office of the DPP (NSW). 

 

 

 

 

Title:

Great Britain. Colonial Office - Colonies, General : Draft letters
patent, commissions, royal instructions, warrants, etc. [CO 380],
1786-1905 

Type of Material: 

MSS 

Ask For: 

PRO 843-851(part), 1037(part), 1139(part)-1140(part),
2345(part)-2347(part), 2699(part), 2953(part)-2954 

Description: 

C\19 microfilm reels ; 35 mm 

Contents: 

*	\Includes Australian colonies, New Zealand, Fiji, Western
Pacific and Papua. CO 380\142 is an index for 1787-1842 

Notes : 

National Library of Australia holds microfilm master\Selected pieces
within class have been filmed\Filmed as part of the Australian Joint
Copying Project by the National Library of Australia and the Library of
New South Wales\Australian Joint Copying Project handbook. Part 2 :
Colonial Office - class and piece list, p. 162\Public Record Office CO
380\12, 104-127, 130, 132, 140, 142, 160-163\Original held by Public
Record Office, London 

Author / Artist : 

Great Britain. Colonial Office <http://www.atmitchell.com/findit/> 

Name : 

Great Britain. Colonial Office <http://www.atmitchell.com/findit/> 

Call No: 

PRO 843-851(part), 1037(part), 1139(part)-1140(part),
2345(part)-2347(part), 2699(part), 2953(part)-2954 

 

 

 

________________________________

From: International Law Librarians List (Int-Law)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Barbara Flowers
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 3:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [Int-Law] UK - April 2 1787 ; April 28 1787 Letters Patent

 

These are rather long ago items, but I can't seem to find anywhere in
Australia a copy of the Letters Patent and Commission of April 2 1878 by
which Governor Phillip was given his Instructions from George III and
then a later amended commission of April 28 1787 which designated the
territory of NSW - would someone in the UK be able to provide these for
me, for a web site I'm building on Queensland and the settlement of its
boundaries -
http://ozcase.library.qut.edu.au/qhlc/LettersPatentQueenslandboundaries.
jsp

 

thank you

 

Barbara Flowers

Reference Librarian (Web Resource Development)

QUT Law LIbrary

George St

Brisbane

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